禁漫天堂

Hi and welcome to the Forum.

We're talking now about people coming to the Netherlands to find a job and work there.

The MVV (Machtiging tot Voorlopig Verblijf; in English, permission for a short-term stay) is a visa to enter the country if you are staying for more than 90 days; it also acts as a short-term residence permit.聽 There are different types of MVV, some nationals also have to pass an Integration (Dutch society & language) exam as part of their MVV process.

You can apply for it in your own right (without a sponsor), but you could be rejected if they think you will struggle to find work or not find somewhere to live.聽 If you are applying for a skilled migrant visa, then you must be sponsored and the sponsor must be registered with the IND.

The IND visa process can take up to 90 days (that's the official response), some can take even longer if the applicant does not supply the correct information the first time round as they will come back and ask questions.聽 Skilled migrant visas can be much quicker (I've heard of 7 days), mainly because there is no Dutch language exam and the sponsor has done a lot of the legwork by offering a work contract, so it cuts out 2 Dutch Government Departments worth of checks.聽 Including immediate family members (wife, husband and children) in this is an option, but can delay matters if further checks are needed.

The 30% tax rule is nothing to do with your visa; it's an arrangement between your employer (it's them that get the 30%, not you) and the Belastingdienst.聽 One of the prerequisites is that you must be living at least 150 km outside the Dutch border at the time you are recruited, so if you think you can come to the Netherlands on an MVV, then look for a job where you will pay 30% less tax - forget it, it's not ever going to happen.

Household goods; coming from the US to Europe can be problematic for electrical items unless yours are switchable from 110v to 220v; the plugs are different.聽 For conventional TV ether broadcasting, American TV's don't work in Europe (for the picture broadcast, the US uses NTSC, the Europeans use PAL).聽 By the time you've finished faffing around with no guarantee of success, my advice is to do what my daughter did, she paid for a ticket that allowed her to bring 2 large suitcases on the flight, she left all the things she wanted to keep with us, then sold everything else.聽 She bought 2nd hand from the local Kringwinkel to go in her first house.聽 If you absolutely must bring your household with you, then find a local logistics company that ships personal goods US to EU, Google will be your friend there.聽 The only time I've done it, the boss was paying, so I didn't care.

I should mention Covid; it's really screwed up local government with many people working from home; anything that involves a piece of paper has become almost impossible to deal with in many places, so be prepared for delays in those circumstances.聽 The Dutch Government have a website that explains the requirements for entry, this will take you straight there.聽 There is currently a requirement for vaccination before they will let you enter the country; you may have a different opinion, but telling everyone while you're in the queue at Schiphol is probably not the ideal time to inform everyone because they can turn you around and send you back to where you came from.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

Thanks!

The 30% tax rule is nothing to do with your visa; it's an arrangement between your employer (it's them that get the 30%, not you) and the Belastingdienst.

I am assuming that this meant that "it's an arrangement between the employer and you" because I thought I got the 30% tax rate when I was assessed the tax. I know taxes are different in NL with 3 boxes and such so it may be just a different perspective.

find a local logistics company that ships personal goods US to EU, Google will be your friend there.

I guess I will have to do that then. I mean I plan on leaving furniture and such when I go, but I do have artwork and additional items to move over. But my partner will deal with that when he comes over on his student visa. Reading what you said above, if I want to make the quick move to establish, it is not worth the 'extra checks.'
Regarding the Covid thing, it's not a big deal for me. I was there for 90 days from August until November 2021, so I got to experience a bunch of the 'fun' with cards and limited hours. I will have to go to Utrecht at some point when I have my BSN to get my US vaccinations associated to the record so the app works.

Thanks for the help. If I have an additional question on this, do I ask it as part of this thread or start a new one so each topic is 'distinct'?

junkstephen wrote:

Thanks!

The 30% tax rule is nothing to do with your visa; it's an arrangement between your employer (it's them that get the 30%, not you) and the Belastingdienst.

I am assuming that this meant that "it's an arrangement between the employer and you" because I thought I got the 30% tax rate when I was assessed the tax. I know taxes are different in NL with 3 boxes and such so it may be just a different perspective.

find a local logistics company that ships personal goods US to EU, Google will be your friend there.

I guess I will have to do that then. I mean I plan on leaving furniture and such when I go, but I do have artwork and additional items to move over. But my partner will deal with that when he comes over on his student visa. Reading what you said above, if I want to make the quick move to establish, it is not worth the 'extra checks.'
Regarding the Covid thing, it's not a big deal for me. I was there for 90 days from August until November 2021, so I got to experience a bunch of the 'fun' with cards and limited hours. I will have to go to Utrecht at some point when I have my BSN to get my US vaccinations associated to the record so the app works.

Thanks for the help. If I have an additional question on this, do I ask it as part of this thread or start a new one so each topic is 'distinct'?

The 30% tax rule is something made available by the Dutch Government to attract Highly Skilled Migrants to come and work in the Netherlands; the tax relief is actually given to the Employer, who then passes some or all (or none) on to the Employee.聽 There are some hurdles you have to jump in order to qualify; this will take you to the Belastingdienst website where it explains it.

Taxes are different in the Netherlands, they have income taxes (pretty much like in the US), plus they have social taxes which are expensive and non-negotiable (and charged on your worldwide income); this will take you straight to the Dutch Government website where they explain it.聽 I'd advise you for at least the 1st year to talk to an experienced US/NL tax adviser because you will still have to submit a tax return to the IRS back in the USA and if you're unfortunate enough to live in a state where they also tax you, they will still be after your hide.

Health Insurance is compulsory and is deducted from your salary; how much depends on what cover you opt-in for.聽 There is a Dutch Government website where it has a useful Q&A; this will take you to it.

If you have any further questions, please just tag them on the bottom of this thread.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

Thanks.
My last question was this. If I qualify for the 30% from my initial employer will i continue to qualify if i go to another employer? I know it ends after a period of 5 years.

Hi again.

Basically, yes.聽 There are some hoops you have to jump through and your new employer has to submit a new application, so they have to be registered with the IND etc.聽 So, it's not a case of just turning up at the new job and carrying on as before, your new employer has work to do.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team