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@ievgenfeldmann

Yes, and not just by walking in randomly 鈥� you should book a proper appointment for the Belgian ID card and demand (not politely ask) that they issue the application immediately, if you are sure that it has been 4 full months since your file was sent to the King's Prosecutor. Keep in mind that the commune has 30 days after your declaration to send the file.

But if those deadlines have already passed, there鈥檚 no point in knocking on doors, begging, asking politely, or bowing respectfully. If 4 months have passed and you haven鈥檛 received a refusal or an official delay notice, then the law is clear and explicit: you are Belgian.

Many people wait around, humiliate themselves, even though they don鈥檛 have to. We鈥檙e in Belgium *** This is a democracy, and the law (for now) still works.

@Mia0210

The question is if the commune lady will know these rules 鈥� not sure they have an idea

@Mia0210

I just wanted to ask what鈥檚 the link you were trying to make between not booking an appointment at the commune and living in Tunisia? Have you actually been to Tunisia?

For context, I鈥檝e never had to book an appointment at my commune in Belgium. It鈥檚 a small one, and they don鈥檛 use appointments at all.

The guy was asking for help, I think your advice was useful. But honestly, the last part was just unnecessary.

@Liwane

Actually Tunisia is only the聽 one democracy in North Africa haha

Just quick question it鈥檚 4 month after I applied for nationality .:: no news nothing so far , should I go to commune to ask what鈥檚 going on ?it鈥檚 Brx 1000 - @ievgenfeldmann

I agree that by the law, if 4 full months passes, you will get nationality. However, in reality, the agent at the commune still need to process your files (encoding your file properly into the system). Also, although the law said so, they must still wait for a confirmation from the King鈥檚 prosecutor office that they have no objection at all because any objection may have been sent just during the last minutes.

Therefore, it is normal to wait for another 2-3 weeks to actually get it finaliize. But at this moment, you should not worry about it anymore.

@Liwane

The difference between going with an appointment and without one is significant. If you just walk in to ask without an appointment, the clerk can easily brush you off and tell you to wait longer 鈥� even if, after 4 months, the applicant has the legal right to demand immediate registration as a Belgian citizen, issuance of the nationality certificate, and, based on that, the ID/passport.

That鈥檚 the best-case scenario. In the worst case, you won鈥檛 even get past the reception desk. Especially considering that the original poster lives in Brussels, this is the most likely outcome.

Let鈥檚 take it further: if he goes without an appointment and gets turned away or ignored, then in any future complaint or legal procedure, the commune could quite reasonably claim that the applicant never showed up at all 鈥� because there鈥檚 no record of a visit.

By the way, in my own commune (a small village in Limburg), there used to be no appointments either 鈥� until COVID. Now everything requires one. You might want to check your own commune again, as policies have changed in many places.

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@peterjohn1104

Oh dear, yet another person who doesn鈥檛 fully understand their rights. It鈥檚 exactly this widespread submissiveness toward bureaucrats that leads to situations like the one the original poster is facing.

"In reality", as you say, the official doesn鈥檛 need to do much. Their job is simple: check the dates, confirm that the 4-month period has passed, and that no objection has been received by the deadline 鈥� then immediately register the person as a Belgian citizen in the system. That鈥檚 literally their job. Bureaucrats function by paper and dates, not by vague feelings or extra weeks of hesitation.

As for the so-called 鈥渓ast minutes鈥� 鈥� those end at 23:59:59 on the last day of the four-month period. There are no 鈥渓ast minutes鈥� after that. That deadline is final, and the law is clear.

You say 鈥渋t is normal to wait another 2鈥�3 weeks.鈥� No 鈥� that鈥檚 not normal, it鈥檚 humiliating. No one should have to wait a single day longer once the legal deadline has passed. Unless people understand that and start asserting their rights, they鈥檒l keep waiting around for months, or even years.

Honestly, I think it鈥檚 time for me to leave this forum. It seems many here don鈥檛 actually value clear, informed advice 鈥� they find it easier to bow to bureaucrats than to stand up for themselves. I wouldn鈥檛 even be surprised if some of you consider slipping an envelope to an official to be 鈥渘ormal,鈥� because that鈥檚 just how things work in certain countries people may have come from.

Good luck to everyone.

I truly hope you all come to understand the real meaning of democracy 鈥� and bureaucracy.

Anyway I keep you all updated

@ievgenfeldmann any updates ?

@Hazem ABDELKAWY

So today they received positive decision regarding my application .. but commune 1000 said I have to wait till they issue nationality certificate etc . Lady Also added now it takes 6 month the process from start till end no clue why as I thought it is 4 month But anyways I am Belgian now 鈥�

@ievgenfeldmann

It is also the holiday season

@ievgenfeldmann

congrats!!

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