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@SV123 any update after the appeal?

My E pass has approved on April 25th late night which is applied on 28th of March. In my point of view MOM is taking 4 weeks for the process.

@kaleeshbcomca 19 weekdays. Not bad 鈾ワ笍 I wish mine would be easier.

@SV123 meaning, after you posted on this forum, your Epass approved late night? Correct?

March 28 applied then rejected and appeal then approved late night April 25th approved. Correct?

@Shinejoe my s pass application submitted on 17th April 2023 too.聽

but pending until now.

12 years working experience in sim and back hometown in 2019.

after 40 months return to Singapore again.

I got polytechnic diploma and聽 and advanced diploma in engineering.

@anhlaing same mine.

applied April 18 and pending till now

@anhlaing its really depend on MOM to approve sooner or later. some even take more than a month. case by case

All the best for speedy process.

Hi All,

Just for information, I studied and worked in Singapore before hence was holder of Student Pass and S Pass. But due to recent economic recession issue, I was affected with the layoffs and my S Pass has to be cancelled. Now, roughly 1 month after my S Pass was cancelled, I have landed a new job and my new employer has applied for new S Pass. However shortly 1 week after applying, my S Pass was rejected recently with the typical 鈥榗andidate not eligible to apply for a work pass鈥� reason.

I am wondering why am I not eligible for it as I have gotten the S Pass before? Can I assume that the problem is not on candidate side but more on the company side? Employer confirmed that they have the quota for S Pass. So what could be the possible reason of rejection in this case? Should I convince my employer to submit an appeal?

One thing that bothers me is that I noticed I have an outstanding NTUC membership fee unpaid because of failed/rejected automatic monthly card payment. Could this be an adverse record?

Job and candidate information:

Startup company

Software engineer

$4.5k monthly

I have 4 months working experience

Indonesian Chinese

20 years old

I am wondering why am I not eligible for it as I have gotten the S Pass before? Can I assume that the problem is not on candidate side but more on the company side? Employer confirmed that they have the quota for S Pass. So what could be the possible reason of rejection in this case? Should I convince my employer to submit an appeal?

MoM's reply indicates that the reason is not the company, but you.

The employer should contact MoM to ask for the rejection reason. An appealonlyhas a chance if it addresses (i.e. removes) the rejection reason.

Looking at your profile, I would say that lack of work experience is the reason -usuallythree years are required. Or maybe the job can be filled by a local instead of you.

The employer shared the rejection letter to me and stated that even if they try to appeal, it is likely to be rejected again without saying why. If lack of work experience is the reason then how come did MOM approve for my first S Pass application when at that time I have 0 working experience. If the reason is because it can be filled by local then I suppose there is no chance of me getting the approval even if I do appeal?

@beppi hi beppi do you think that outstanding NTUC membership fee count as adverse record? Haha, Im not sure about this but would like to seek your opinion.

@GLaurentW聽 hello. I was also thinking about it. But one of my friend have huge credit card balances and multiple telephone company bills unpaid. He was able to get an epass approved again last year.

@beppi hi beppi do you think that outstanding NTUC membership fee count as adverse record? Haha, Im not sure about this but would like to seek your opinion.
-@GLaurentW

MoM only knows about such issues if the debtor (NTUC) has taken legal measures to collect the debt. If MoM does not know it, it cannot have an effect on a work pass application!

@beppi Hi beppi! This is my first time working here in SG. My application has been submitted to MOM last April 17 and my employer even gave me an email for proof but up until now 2 weeks later my application is now showing on here

Do I need to worry or ask my employer or I just need to wait a little bit more time? Thank you so much!

@leanniesantos Oh, Hi Leannie! Mine was applied last April 7. Are you an S-Pass too? Oh but one thing is mine is still not showing 鈥減ending鈥� on the online checking site of MOM. Goodluck on us!

@GLaurentW I was in your shoes.

However, I was applying for Ep not Spass. Could you share more about the salary for your job? The rejection could be because software engineers are usually given EP not SPass. And if you are applying for SPass (for salary reasons), you may be undercutting the local market and hence MOM does not like that

@Ruee applying for Epass.

applied april 18 and showed pending immediately after online application.

as of today april 30 - still pending

@Ruee Your employer should contact MoM to find out what caused this delay!

@beppi Hi beppi, do you think it is possibly because of lower salary offered than previous job. My first employer first applied for an EP with $5k salary but it got rejected, then appealed for S Pass $5k salary and then approved. Now my new employer applied for S Pass with $4.5k salary, rejected.

@GLaurentW Of course it is possible that the new salary is below the threshold MoM deems appropriate for your situation and for the job offered. The employer can contact MoM to find out more!

@beppi My employer did an online application.

April 18 - applied

May 01 - still pending status

do you think this is too long for Epass?

@leanniesantos No, it鈥檚 not long. Please also bear in mind that there were public holidays recently.

@Shekhz ok thank you. I will keep everyone posted for their reference. May I also ask, when they appeal after the rejection, do you have any idea how long it will take for the result again?

There is no thumb rules to say any specific days as MoM reviews case by case basis. But, you can consider around 2 weeks an average time to get a result of your appeal.

Hi @beppi , surya, and all. What supporting documents should be submitted for an appeal if it is a candidacy reason? It seems like in my case MOM wants my employer to justify on why they hire me instead of other applicants especially locals. Some supporting documents that I can think of:

1. reference letter from hiring manager
2. letter of justification on why the candidate is chosen among other applicants
3. candidate academic achievement certificates
4. recommendation letter from past employers.

Do you all think there is any other possible documents that might support the appeal?

I would say point 2 & 3 are the matters. If employer can provide valid rationale why they want to hire you ahead of others (including locals). Then it suffices your candidature ahead of others.

Secondly, when employer prepares point 2 & 3, make sure they do their following homework:

1. They have to produce evidences that they tried locally (with CVs and interviews) before looking for a foreign talent.
2. They also need to provide a comparison between your experiences and certificates in compare to locals.

This will give a good chance for MoM to alter its earlier decision. Good luck

@GLaurentW employer also need to furnish the Jobs Bank posting details that at least ran for 15days

Yes, posting in job bank is a must including to show the evidences of taking interviews of local people including PRs before reaching foreigners for the same role.

It鈥檚 exempted if your company has less than 10 employees in Singapore or salary of the job position is more than 20k or position is available for short term less than a month or a transfer between two different offices in the same company.

@Niv81 No update on my end, anything from your end?

@vblank95

No update here as well. This is my 10th week and at this point me and the employer have done everything possible.

We even managed to call all the government agencies in Singapore and my home country, including universities and employers abroad etc and have confirmed that there are no pending requests from the MOM.

So at this point, just waiting.

Namaste! Could anyone of you introduce me to the "Indian Network"? I have trouble obtaining an EP.

Thank you very much!

@red1985 IPA is sufficient. Once in Singapore, they will issue an Work Pass card with the words "Employment Pass" on it.

@TechExpert007 what an Indian network has to do with your EP?

In Singapore, nobody can do anything on EP or S pass approval. Absolutely 0% influence in order to get someone鈥檚 work pass. Good luck

@Niv81 also waiting for Epass update? May I know when did you applied?

@leanniesantos

I鈥檓 waiting for my EP.

application date: 25th Feb 2023

@Niv81 still pending?

do you have any rejection or appeal? What took it so long?

Just wanted to update everyone that my EP was finally approved today.

Date of Application: 25 Feb 2023

1st update from MOM: 8 March 2023

External Vetting Agencies: 17 March 2023

2nd update from MOM: 24 April 2023

IPA received: 4 May 2023

overall the process took 2.5 months (10 weeks)

good luck to those waiting!

@Niv81 congratulations, your efforts paid off. Good luck on your journey in Singapore!

@Niv81 congrats