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brownpoppa14

While looking around to find the right fit for me any suggestions and do they have any programs of funding to help you move from USA looking for permanent residency out of the country Brandy Nicole

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OsageArcher

To my knowledge there are no Colombian government programs of funding to help foreigners move to Colombia.  About the nearest thing you would find is the Colombian government allowing Colombians returning from living overseas, an import tax break on household goods from abroad, their menaje de casa.  But even that has strict limits on items covered.


You can do an internet search for

how to get colombia permanent residency

...and get numerous links outlining the procedures for different methods of obtaining residency.


To be successful in living perrmanently in Colombia it would be extremely helpful to have a good command of the Spanish language as well as a good understanding of the culture.  As Dorothy said to her dog Toto, "I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore"...

nico peligro

Colombia is one of the more difficult countries to get a temporay or permanent   visa nowadays. With no money, in your case ,zero chance.


There arent any  countries in the world that   wiill a give you funding moving out of the US even if you   are originally from Gaza or Ukraine and considered a true refugee by the UN, as the US is still  considered a safe third country.


Now if you are being  expelled by ICE  you  can throw your passport away and cross the land border to Canada illegally  and they might put you up in a hotel for a few months and give you   an alowance while they review your case,  but who knows, no guarantees, you might be out in the streets or in a detention centre  or they might ship you back to the US.


Winter is coming you might be better going to México  and stay  there permanently if you dont mind being  an illegal.


You could always  clean car windsields  with a squeegie at intersections for spare  change. That doesnt take much Spanish language skill.

ChineduOpara

While looking around to find the right fit for me any suggestions and do they have any programs of funding to help you move from USA looking for permanent residency out of the country Brandy Nicole - @brownpoppa14

For fun and nature, VISIT Colombia. For long-term living, better to try other countries. Read this, it might help you understand why applying for most visas in Colombia now is a waste of time and money:


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OsageArcher

This site outlines some of what ChineduOpara alludes to, that under Petro the visa processes are becoming more difficult.  Christopher Möller is a trusted lawyer who has helped many expats in all sorts of matters.



It doesn't help that under Petro and Trump, the official policies of both countries have become increasingly contentious towards one another.


This site offers some tips on how to proceed when your visa is denied.


nico peligro

@OsageArcher

FACT: Resolucion 5477 was introduced in late 2022 , before Petro was elected


Personaly   I dont think any future change in government  Will make the visa process or acceptance rate any easier.


Could be wrong.

SimCityAT

Just thinking about it more, and more countries are tightening immigration, unless you have a lot of money to invest in a poor country, or they need highly skilled workers.

ChineduOpara

Just thinking about it more, and more countries are tightening immigration, unless you have a lot of money to invest in a poor country, or they need highly skilled workers. - @SimCityAT

This seems to be the trend. They noticed that more and more people are fleeing the west seeking a lower cost of living (among other things). Therefore, many governments seem to be:


  1. Tightening their immigration and even their tourist rules.
  2. Taking even MORE advantage of us socioeconomic refugees (aspiring expats on a tight budget). That is, in addition to the "normal" gringo pricing and random scams we encounter on the ground, migration departments are hiking up visa fees, etc. Thailand did this recently.
  3. Implementing reciprocal visitor visa requirements which ("tit-for-tat") which, for the record, I think is totally fair... If Country A has visa requirements for Country B, then the same should apply vice-versa.


Colombia Migracion seems to be doing both #1 and #2. And since they've tasted the money, I doubt that any future administration is gonna LOOSEN things or make things fairer and more equitable.

ChineduOpara

@SimCityAT

At this point I am seriously considering the $75K Citizenship by Investment program that Botswana just started offering less than 2 weeks ago. Botswana is a very stable country so from all indications, it's a huge hit and people are buying it in droves. I bet within 6 months the price will jump to over $100K.


I'd post a link to the details, but of course it'll get moderated away. So just DM me for more info, or search Google.

ChineduOpara

@OsageArcher

Question. Do you have any idea why my link was deleted, but yours were not?

nico peligro

@SimCityAT

México is still fairly easy apparently. All you have to do is show assets of around $250 k USD  in your home  country and  you get a visa for life apparently. Just show  no investment required.Thats what my  friend thst lives there  tells ne anyway.

ChineduOpara

@nico peligro

That doesn't sound accurate. It sounds too easy/straightforward. Maybe he's missing some details?

OsageArcher

@OsageArcher
Question. Do you have any idea why my link was deleted, but yours were not? - @ChineduOpara

Yes, I do.


I have been appointed for a few years now as an exalted Colombia expert with the "badge" being the little green circle on my avatar, apparently due to a long history of providing useful and (mostly) accurate information, gained from my long experience with Colombia dating from 1996, my knowledge of Spanish dating from 1959, and "inside track" information from my Colombian family by marriage since the year 2000, about all sorts of things relating to Colombia that outsiders would find difficult to impossible to know.


Más sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo. 😆

SimCityAT

@SimCityAT
México is still fairly easy apparently. All you have to do is show assets of around $250 k USD in your home country and you get a visa for life apparently. Just show no investment required.Thats what my friend thst lives there tells ne anyway. - @nico peligro

But with that, you still need money, it sounds like the OP doesn't.

ChineduOpara

@OsageArcher

Ok, understood. Kinda sucks because I think the information is useful, but the moderator simply removed the link without even reviewing the content to see if it's relevant. Bummer. Oh well. In the future I'll just post the links directly to the person.


thx

OsageArcher

@OsageArcher
Ok, understood. Kinda sucks because I think the information is useful, but the moderator simply removed the link without even reviewing the content to see if it's relevant. Bummer. Oh well. In the future I'll just post the links directly to the person.
thx - @ChineduOpara

The way to get around this limitation, is often to post a search term that will lead to the results you want people to see, where the desired site is at or near the top.

For instance search for

lago colima comfandi

...in lieu of posting the "forbidden" link

ChineduOpara

@OsageArcher

Yeah but in my case, the link is a link that's not really "searchable" on Google (I've not yet "widely publicized" my travel blog) 🤷ðŸ½â€â™‚ï¸

ChineduOpara

@nico peligro

I researched this briefly. It looks like your friend is correct re: qualifications (though the amount for Permanent Resident visa is actually $279K). Temporary Resident visa requires us to show "only" $80K in savings and investments.


I can qualify for either of these on Day One, so I'm actually going to investigate Mexico. If all I am seeing is accurate, it's FAAARR easier to get residency in Mexico than in Colombia. I might even start the application process from Bogota (Colombia), to save myself the hassle of spending more $$ on plane tickets.

OsageArcher

@OsageArcher Yeah but in my case, the link is a link that's not really "searchable" on Google (I've not yet "widely publicized" my travel blog) 🤷ðŸ½â€â™‚ï¸ - @ChineduOpara

I just did a search on a hunch for

chineduopara travel blog

...and lo and behold, your blog was right at the top of the results!


I used the DuckDuckGo search engine, but I think they use Google just without tracking you.

Bhavna

Hello everyone,


Please note that I have removed some posts from this thread. It was getting off-topic.


@ChineduOpara, Personal blogs or websites, are not allowed because they can redirect traffic outside ½ûÂþÌìÌà and sometimes have promotional or monetized content. This rule applies to everyone equally, regardless of the content of the blog.


We used to have a "blogs section", which we deleted and have now created a new option for members so that they can add their website and social networks links in their profile ( /en/profile/320361 … opara.html). You can invite members to have a look at your profile or send your blog link via private message.


All the best

Bhavna

nico peligro

@OsageArcher

In otherwords the rules applies to some and not others


Even so called experts who just do internet searches and havent lived here for years.


Sorry for being blunt and truthful

nico peligro

@ChineduOpara

Its way more expensive than Colombia, depending where you live

nico peligro

@SimCityAT

I really dont  take the OPs post seriously .Thats why I posted a satirical reply.


The thread get off on another tangent and I posted info. From ancedotal experience that Chin might find useful.

OsageArcher

@OsageArcher In otherwords the rules applies to some and not othersEven so called experts who just do internet searches and havent lived here for years.Sorry for being blunt and truthful - @nico peligro


Some people live many years, but their experience is just one same year over and over.


Others profit not only by their own experiences but by the experiences of others.


Some people try to be helpful and useful.  Others are only critical, without providing anything of much real use.


Antes de criticar, mírate la cola

ChineduOpara

@ChineduOpara
Its way more expensive than Colombia, depending where you live - @nico peligro

Yeah in general the cost of living is significantly higher than in Colombia, but I have a friend who lives in Chapala, and we ran some numbers... it'll be higher than I am used to, but I can still live below my means (as I do now in Colombia).


There'll be some advantages to being based in MX... one important one being proximity to the USA (my daughter's university is in California, and my brothers live in WA state). Flights between MX and CA are significantly less expensive than between CO and CA. Another is not having to do the expensive Colombian "tourist visa shuffle" every 6 months.


So, with those "savings", the numbers should even out in the long run.


We'll see how it pans out.