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NewBrazil

USA Marco Rubio just rejected all of the Head of  Brazilian Superior Court Judge Visa to the USA along with his other colleagues and family members. My concern is will this Judge who does seem to run the Country retaliate. He could by rejecting all US citizens Visa and any Residency of US citizens. What do you think about this happening concerned. We are alway visitor here in Brazil.

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mberigan

@NewBrazil


I would be way more worried about being a resident non-citizen in the USA than somebody with the same status here in Brazil at the moment. There are so many examples of masked unmarked authorities taking people from the streets without warrants in the USA right now. A recent situation with a Brazilian named Guilherme Lemes Cardoso e Silva is in the news (look for the Newsweek article).


I never imaged this kind of behavior could happen in modern times in the USA. I feel safe here in Brazil.

mberigan

ibdegen

@NewBrazil

I feel your concern. At the moment, using the rejection of visas as punishment is targeted against the judges because the Trump regime believes that US visas are so cherished that the judges will expunge the charges against Bolsonaro só as not to interfere with the judges' vacation plans. In a rational world, there would be no utility to cancelling the visas of Brazilian citizens in the US which could trigger retaliatory actions by Lula against us expats in Brasil. But the Trump regime is not rational. We can only hope that Lula is. 🤞🏼🙏🏼

abthree

07/28/25 @NewBrazil.  The "Head" of Brazil's Supreme Federal Tribunal is its President, Luís Roberto Barroso.  The Justice ("Minister" in Brazil) of whom you seem to be thinking, Alexandre de Moraes, is responsible for the Court's investigation of the attempted coup of January 8, 2023 and associated crimes.  Eight of the eleven members of the Court, including both President Barroso and Minister Moraes, have had their US visas canceled (or suspended, that detail is not entirely clear) by Secretary of State Marco Rubio.  This is an unprecedented action against top level officials of a friendly state, especially when the express purpose of the action is to influence the official behavior of those officials, but unfortunately, unprecedented hostile actions from the United States against friendly states have not been uncommon  during the past seven months, and are no longer unexpected. 


It is true that Brazil's normal response throughout its history to hostile foreign behavior has been reciprocity, but reciprocity in policy, not retaliation against random individuals.  I don't expect any foreigner currently living legally in Brazil has anything to fear from the Federal Government, unless they engage in illegal activities.  In that case, they can expect the usual benefits of due process of law:  Brazil doesn't distinguish between citizens and foreigners where that's concerned.  Naturally, the government can't control the reactions of individual Brazilians to provocations, so this would be an especially bad time to be an "Ugly American", not that there's ever a GOOD time for that.


If the announced tariffs go into effect against Brazil on Friday, you can expect rapid and proportional reciprocal actions; the US has a trade surplus with Brazil and produces very little that Brazil can't get somewhere else, so as the guy who started this trouble might say, Brazil "has a lot of cards".

Ipanema777

In the Newsweek article mentioned above the Brazilian “visual artist” who was arrested had overstayed his expired US visa by 8 years. That is not a good idea in any country.


if we, as non-citizen guests in Brazil, are going to exceed the limits of our visa or temporary legal resident status, we have an obligation to report to the Polícia Federal to request an extension.


The link to the biased  Newsweek article is below:


abthree

07/31/25 In the Newsweek article mentioned above the Brazilian “visual artist” who was arrested had overstayed his expired US visa by 8 years. That is not a good idea in any country. - @Ipanema777

Agreed.  It does appear from the information in the article that the individual has an outstanding I-485 petition pending, which provides him with grounds to appeal any deportation order, at least while ICE's sister organization CIS (Citizenship and Immigration Services) is considering his case, and further appeals if CIS rejects his petition:



If ICE hustles him out of the country before he can exercise his legal rights, though -- as we've already observed in other cases -- this may all be rendered moot.


*ETA* Brazilian law forbids deporting the parent of a Brazilian citizen, regardless of the adult's immigration or marital status.

roddiesho

@NewBrazil Good Question. I am probably sitting it out until 2028. My primary reason coming here and being here now is to be by the side of my 98yr. old Brazilian (2nd.) Mother. I will not leave her side as long as she is with us. After that in due time I will visit the USA, but I am in no hurry.


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asenior091br

I have permanent residency and will probably work on getting my Brazilian citizenship next year, but I don't think Americans in Brazil need to worry about it much. The current US regime is run by a complete child that makes drastic decisions based on emotion and ego. Thankfully Brazil doesnt have this issue and there's also the fact that Americans in Brazil do bring a lot to the economy and business. I imagine Brazil will take the high road when it comes to this specifically and won't simply stoop down to the childish games of the US.