UK and USA on smart TV
After years of messing about with VPN's etc. I couldn't be bothered any longer and settled some while ago with a Netflix account.
Bored with that now😉
What recommendations for plug in Smart TV devices to receive UK/USA content?
I prefer not to have a locally provided monthly subscription?
I purchased an Amazon Firestick from the UK and plugged that into the LG Smart TV. It has NordVPN installed and I have an account with them. Most things work well and my Netflix UK account also works fine. Disney does not work. BBC iPlayer does work. Before I had this I used my notebook with the VPN to screen cast to the tv. The fire stick is much easier to work with.
Thanks Phil. I was considering somehow getting an Amazon Firestick. However I visited a store today and they suggested an app that works. As a firestick needs to be obtained in UK therefore longer timescale. I haven't done anything as yet.
Amazon are to change their OS so may not be a great idea as sideloading apps is exactly the reason they are doing so ..it's an effort to prevent their devices from using illegal apps.. if it's only netflix disney etc the. Legit paid apps should be ok.Â
I use my android TV and Tivimate as my platform for live TV VOD and TV series libraries I get from my providers.... Been with them 6-7 years now very reliable and always ahead of the game
I pay for Netflix and would be willing to pay subscriptions for others. But it's not legally possible and I object to paying for an inferior product. Example being, my Netflix subscription is paid to UK in £s but I cannot get UK content.
I pay for Netflix and would be willing to pay subscriptions for others. But it's not legally possible and I object to paying for an inferior product. Example being, my Netflix subscription is paid to UK in £s but I cannot get UK content. - @Drambuie
I have a VPN, and can change my Netflix to any country I like. I also have IPTV and can watch TV from the UK, USA, Canada, and Australia, among others.
is free to use if you have a VPN.
Sounds like you need a good VPN
Sounds like you need a good VPN - @Toon
I use
I got fed up with various VPNs being blacklisted by BBC. They lasted a short while then "poof" 😃
The suggestion yesterday of an app to use seems on investigation not worthwhile. So back to square one.
Think I might cancel Netflix and go back to reading ðŸ˜
Never had a problem with my service for Live TV VoD and series.. no vpn required here. We get and see everything
@SimCityAT
I have now looked at cyberghost and am pretty certain It was tried and refunded but not 100% certain as I have used various over the years.
As you recommend I might give it a go. But on your head be it 😃
@Drambuie
With the nordvpn connected to the UK our netflix shows UK content and works seemlessly
Thanks for the reassurance.
I bit the bullet and signed with Nordvpn. It's bringing in Netflix UK/USA perfectly on my phone.
Now have to setup my LG televisions which think they are in Cyprus via Cablenet. It's already been a long day since before dawn. So will save that pleasure 😕
I will be interested to know if you are able to get nordvpn working on lg webos - @phildraper
I doubt you would be able to.
Just connect the laptop to the TV or invest in a VPN Router.
I did have this set up previously using a seperate VPN modem all worked fine other than occasionally needing to make changes to receive BBC. Then I changed suppliers and went onto fiber. I had re connected the auxiliary modem to the new system but hadn't got round to setting up the UK DNS, As it's far from my areas of expertise I am slowly testing options. I can watch UK content if ever I get desperate.
Looks good. I have connected to the spare router and both LG's are receiving all channels it seems through NORDVPN.
Netflix, Disney, iPlayer.
Early days but we shall see.
Just as a heads up. Primetel would not let me have the router admin password so I could install the VPN on the router. I have to use the VPN on the fire stick. All works fine and as I only have 1 TV no issues for me.
The telcos won't give you their pass code. So you simply purchase a seperate router as a slave and plug that into the telcos router. Ensure you can obtain the slave admin password beforehand .
I did that for years previously and have now reinstated and working well.
Just as a heads up. Primetel would not let me have the router admin password so I could install the VPN on the router. I have to use the VPN on the fire stick. All works fine and as I only have 1 TV no issues for me. - @phildraper
The default password for a Primetel router is not universally the same and can vary. It's often found on a sticker on the back or bottom of the router itself, or in the router's manual. If you're unable to find it there, the default username is often "admin", and the password may also be "admin" or "password".
The telcos won't give you their pass code. So you simply purchase a seperate router as a slave and plug that into the telcos router. Ensure you can obtain the slave admin password beforehand .
I did that for years previously and have now reinstated and working well. - @Drambuie
  Username: telco  Password: telco
Buy a cheap travel router that you can
easily setup with a vpn with its menu and use a secondary access device allowing al U.K. services including Alexa devices with bbc sounds etc
Currently on Amazon £32 but a lot of used items on ebay U.K.
GL.iNet GL-SFT1200 (Opal) Secure Travel WiFi Router – AC1200 Dual Band Gigabit Ethernet Wireless Internet Router | IPv6 | USB 2.0 | MU-MIMO | DDR3 |128MB Ram | Repeater Bridge | Access Point Mode £32
Cyta is committed to enforcing EU digital rights laws by the end of 2026 so a vpn is a
necessity in future
Story not related but comment on - IP address access is relevant
The Supreme Court has ruled that it is legal for the authorities to use specialised software to identify the IP addresses of people who distribute images of child sexual abuse on the internet.
It also ruled that internet service providers can retain IP addresses of all internet users, finding that an IP address in and of itself does not constitute a user’s personal data, as it technically belongs not to the user, but to the service provider.
As such, the police have the right to demand IP data from an internet service provider if a court warrant is secured.
In its decision, the Supreme Court wrote that “the opposite approach would entail a real risk of systemic impunity, not only for criminal offences which infringe on intellectual property rights or related rights, but also for other types of criminal offences committed on the internetâ€.
If I already have NordVPN on my tv and tv streaming box ( and on tablets and phones) do I need another VPN on router? Amazon devices seem to work fine on my Cyta router.
only thing I can’t use on TV or Tv streaming box is BBC iplayer
You should be able to get iPlayer via a vpn on a
smart tv (android) or firestick - ensure timezone
on devices mirrors uk
You do need another if your devices load up the vpn - though having one access point set to U.K. with the vpn is ideal
" I have connected to the spare router and both LG's are receiving all channels it seems through NORDVPN"
However not quite there yet 😕
Although I am receiving BBC iPlayer on my android mobile I am unable to do so on either LG TV. (error code 02062)
Android is receiving via UK VPN.
I regularly get that on my fire stick with nordvpn. I try a few times or change the VPN server to another location. Sometimes I just select random programmes and eventually one will work then select the original and that works. No idea why
BBC iPlayer was the reason for me giving up on VPN's in the past because it was hit and miss.
Looks like it's not worth the aggro. Last thing I need when it's time to relax for the evening.
Have you tried using the vpn with iplayer on your phone and casting bbc to tv
I have an LG tv and have no problem with the bbc app on tv or casting to tv
I can use mobile to LG but that's not an acceptable method. I'm sure the problem has a solution.
I will keep BUGGERING! on ðŸ˜
What is so important about BBC iplayer or indeed any other iPlayer...
I've never needed any of those or a VPN....everything on them I can get whenever I want
Toon, I understand you pay a local provider for your service. Of course we could all do the same. Obviously not all wish to do so.
@Drambuie..
That's a fair comment, carry on mcduff..... When it is available ..your mission should you accept is to find a solution... There is one within reach ...
I don't use a local.provider at all..... Never have done in the 11 years here.... My provider is a far cry from being local but they are reliable, don't require a VPN, and provide catch up with extensive video on demand and TV series libraries with a full TV guide for 10-14 days... Been with them for probably 6-7 years now and have tried loads of others over the years and nobody compares to them.. on top of that the CS is excellent they are always one step ahead of the game.... And offer their service at a very reasonable price, with a black Friday offer saving 20%
Any way good luck
European Union will vote on legislation that could fundamentally alter digital privacy across Europe - a regulation requiring communication platforms to automatically scan all messages, photos and emails before transmission. Cyprus currently supports this measure, which critics argue represents an unprecedented expansion of government intrusion into privacy
This will impact IPTV as Cyta and other EU ISPs will be held accountable for EU digital copyright regulations
This will impact IPTV as Cyta and other EU ISPs will be held accountable for EU digital copyright regulations
Data - includes emails, messages, video etc
I hear what you are saying and it will probably happen... BUT There is always a bigger better faster gunslinger... WHERE THERES A WILL THERES A WAY...there are some very clever guys out there. They will.probablt conquer VPN use too...how I don't know am not that clever
We shall see what happens over time...
Sounds like a legal and political nightmare to manage and police
‘Chat Control’ threatens to turn every smartphone into a government surveillance tool
By Andreas Shialaros
On October 14, 2025, the European Union will vote on legislation that could fundamentally alter digital privacy across Europe – a regulation requiring communication platforms to automatically scan all messages, photos and emails before transmission. Cyprus currently supports this measure, which critics argue represents an unprecedented expansion of surveillance powers.
What is ‘Chat Control’
Under the pretext of combating child pornography, the EU proposes to force every messaging platform – WhatsApp, iMessage, Messenger, Instagram, Telegram, Signal, Gmail and all communication apps – to implement government-mandated scanning technology that will analyse every private communication with artificial intelligence and report suspicious content to authorities.
The most scandalous part? Political figures’ accounts are exempt from surveillance, while all other members of the public will be systematically monitored.
Scenarios that will become daily reality
Imagine these situations becoming reality:
Family moments turned into nightmares: A mother sends a photo of her baby in swimwear at the beach. The AI flags it as “suspicious†and automatically reports it to authorities. The family finds itself under investigation for abuse, facing police interrogations and visits from social services.
Teenage relationships destroyed: A couple of 17-year-olds exchange photos. The system, which cannot distinguish ages, flags them as “child pornographyâ€. The young people face unnecessary harassment from authorities.
Educational content censored: An art teacher sends a reproduction of a classical work featuring nudity for a lesson. It’s blocked as “child pornography†and they face interrogation.
Medical consultations compromised: A parent photographs their child’s injury seeking urgent medical advice from a family doctor. The AI system, unable to distinguish medical necessity from abuse, triggers an automatic report. The family faces child protection investigations despite seeking legitimate healthcare.
The destruction of the legal profession
As a lawyer, I see profound implications for legal practice. Chat Control threatens the fundamental principle of attorney-client privilege enshrined in legal systems across Europe. Every communication with clients, case strategies and confidential legal advice would be subject to automated government scanning.
This creates a chilling effect on legal representation. Clients may withhold sensitive information, knowing their communications aren’t truly confidential. The very foundation of effective legal defence – the ability to speak freely with one’s lawyer – would be compromised.
Moreover, this system creates a two-tier justice system where, reportedly, certain categories of users (including political figures) may be exempt, while the ordinary public face systematic monitoring.
The technical reality
Current AI technology cannot reliably distinguish context, intent or legal content. Even with claimed 99.9 per cent accuracy – which independent experts consider optimistic – the volume of daily communications in Europe would generate thousands of false positives daily. Law enforcement resources would be overwhelmed, investigating innocent people while actual criminals adapt to use alternative communication methods.
Furthermore, security experts warn that mandating backdoors for scanning weakens encryption for everyone, potentially exposing the public to criminal hackers and foreign surveillance. The European Court of Human Rights confirmed in Podchasov v. Russia that such encryption-weakening measures “could be exploited by criminal networks and would seriously compromise the security of all users’ electronic communicationsâ€.
Why is it illegal?
This regulation faces significant legal challenges under established European law:
European Convention on Human Rights (Article 8): The European Court of Human Rights (EctHR) has consistently ruled that mass surveillance measures must be necessary in a democratic society and proportionate to their aims. Most recently, in the landmark Podchasov v. Russia case (2024), the ECtHR ruled that weakening encryption mandates violates fundamental privacy rights. The court specifically found that requirements to decrypt communications risk weakening the encryption mechanism for all users and constitute disproportionate interference with privacy rights.
EU Charter of Fundamental Rights (Articles 7 & 8): These guarantee respect for private life and data protection. The Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) has ruled in cases like Digital Rights Ireland that mass data retention violates these principles.
GDPR compliance concerns: Processing all communications constitutes mass data processing that likely lacks adequate legal basis under GDPR Article 6, and fails to meet the data minimisation principle.
Right to effective legal representation: The systematic breach of attorney-client privilege could violate Article 6 ECtHR (fair trial rights). The ECtHR has repeatedly recognised attorney-client privilege as a fundamental requirement of a democratic society and as a corollary to the rights of the defence, essential for effective legal representation.
The CJEU has established clear limits on surveillance measures in its Digital Rights Ireland ruling, which struck down the Data Retention Directive for being disproportionate mass surveillance. Additionally, in the Schrems decisions, the CJEU invalidated EU-US data transfer agreements partly due to concerns about mass surveillance programmes. This Chat Control measure appears to contradict established CJEU jurisprudence requiring targeted, proportionate surveillance measures.
Internal EU legal warnings ignored
The European Council’s own Legal Service has repeatedly warned that Chat Control violates fundamental rights. In a leaked legal opinion from April 2023, council lawyers concluded that the proposal would “highly probably†constitute “general and indiscriminate†surveillance that the CJEU has consistently rejected. The legal experts warned that the measure would make “the right to confidentiality of correspondence become ineffective and devoid of contentâ€.
Even more significantly, a leaked internal German government protocol from the July 11, 2025 EU Council working group meeting reveals that the Council Legal Service maintains its position that the latest Danish proposal violates fundamental rights. According to the classified document published by Netzpolitik.org, council lawyers stated that “the core problems of access to communication for potentially all users remain unchanged†and that client-side scanning “is a violation of human rights and does not depend on the type of technologyâ€. The legal experts also referenced the 2024 Podchasov v. Russia ruling, emphasising that weakening end-to-end encryption affecting all users constitutes a violation of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights. Despite these clear legal assessments from their own advisors, EU governments are pressing ahead with a regulation that their own lawyers say violates fundamental rights.
Cyprus on the wrong side of history
Unfortunately, Cyprus appears to support this mass surveillance. Of the 27 EU member states, only three clearly oppose it (Netherlands, Poland, Czech Republic), while 19 states support some form of Chat Control, and five remain undecided. Cyprus stands firmly in the mass surveillance camp, having even signed a joint position in 2023 in favour of scanning even encrypted communications, supporting this unprecedented violation of human rights.
What can we do?
Time is running out. The vote is in less than two months. Contact your MEPs immediately – all six Cypriot representatives need to hear constituent concerns. Additionally, reach out to the Cyprus government through official channels, as member state positions significantly influence EU negotiations.
Citizens can also support digital rights organisations challenging this legislation and stay informed through resources like fightchatcontrol.eu, which tracks the legislative process and provides templates for contacting representatives.
This is not simply a discussion about technology. It’s a battle for the kind of society we want to leave to our children. Do we want a society where every private moment, every personal thought, every confidential conversation will be monitored by government systems, or a society that respects fundamental rights and human dignity?
The choice is ours. But only if we act now.
Andreas Shialaros is a Cyprus-based lawyer who deals with digital rights and data protection issues among other areas..
Source Cyprus Mail
I hear what you are saying and it will probably happen... BUT There is always a bigger better faster gunslinger... WHERE THERES A WILL THERES A WAY...there are some very clever guys out there. They will.probablt conquer VPN use too...how I don't know am not that clever
We shall see what happens over time... - @Toon
These guys are always one step ahead; they will always find a way. The IPTV companies that get caught are always the big, greedy ones that have lots of customers. There are 1000s out there, and smaller ones are much better and likely to go undetected.
As I have said, I have a VPN and have no issues with it, and I can also download Torrents. To be honest with you, I dont miss UK TV at all, and rarely watch it.
@SimCityAT
I have a VPN available to me but don't need it so have never used it... When I did try it it was quirky and slowed my speed down.
So it's parked up
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