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ddaoud3

Hello all:


I am using an independent cleaning lady in DR, whom I use after I or short-term rental guests leave. Is there a clear legal process in handling such arrangement? She is not employed staff, just hired on the job-to-job basis.  Are there formalities that I and she must abide?  I hear everyone has a different explanation.  Thank you in advance. 

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Yessir Punta Cana

@ddaoud3

Hi what's your question though?  You agree on what you want her to do and pay her. You are not her employer.

ddaoud3

are there legal formalities to file?  government paperwork?

ddaoud3

I am told some labor laws changed in 2022 that create more regulations, and local labor inspectors can be a real pain in the neck.  but it seems everyone i speak  with  has s  different  explanation   

RockyM

And another thought....locals will want to consider themselves your "employee". That gives them certain rights. I hired a gardener to come by twice a month for a total of 8 hours a month, and guess what...he considers me his "employer".  They will also start asking for "incidentals" (i.e. my child is sick, I need money for medicine, etc). And advances on their pay. Its just how it is.

planner

The laws did change and you could be at risk.  Cleaning staff and property staff can now be considered employees.  It used to be you could "contract" people.  They are contractors if they are registered with the tax department and give you a proper receipt.  You must retain a % of their contracted fee and remit it.


Or they are employees and have rights. 


If this is an air bnb then you have a corp?

ondami

Great information. 


Thank you.

jramosrheum

Can any one give  leads for a person or a company fot clean for my home in cabarette?

ondami

Cleaning supplies question.


i know this question is about minutiae; however, our shippers come

nezxt week and we are trying to whittle down what we are taking.  Hence, my question.


Do cleaning personnel that one hires provide their own brooms, mops, vacuum, etc.?


We will provide our own cleaning solutions.


Thank you.

planner

You provide everything.

ddmcghee

@ondami

Good quality brooms are hard to find here, and vacuums other than shop vacs are nearly impossible! I suggest bringing both if you are bringing in a container! We've had to ship in or bring in a couple of vacuums/dust busters. But even with a good vacuum, the Dominican way to clean floors is with a mop and lots and lots of water! 🤣

planner

You absolutely must teach any person in your house how to clean your way. I don't permit anyone to throw water around and I have had to teach them how to use a vacuum cleaner as well.   Remember anyone in this type of position is likely to have little education and little access to what you are used to.

RockyM

What Planner says also goes for home repair. I normally provide tools,  ladders, and materials. They tend to show up on a pasola with no tools. And whether they know how to actually do what you ask them to do is another question.

planner

All true!!!

Conifer

I feel sorry for all these people asking questions but no specific guidance is given.  Do we all have to learn by falling and cracking our head?  Why does this community gatekeep specifics?   


help, I am getting bitter again, I have to get out of DR for a while.


there is a huge difference between what the govt says is the law and what is actually done on the street.  Gig workers are late, miss work, do a shi**y job, complain complain complain, break your stuff, steal, and then ask for severance when you don’t want them anymore?  Hah!  NO!


push back!


the govt has tried forever to implement labor laws for gig workers but fails over and over again. Why?  Cause the workforce sucks.  It’s not valued because it sucks.


  I tried to “formally†hire my cleaning lady and that’s when she really got lazy.  She pretended she was pregnant and tried to extort me for money to get an abortion.  Need I say more?


if they want full benefits, like severance and health insurance, they should go work for a corporation with a job description, tasks, performance reviews, responsibilities, work hours.


if you’re a corporation, why are you on here, consult with your lawyer and have your cleaner registered under TSS.  If you’re a company then you better hire your people correctly.


there are ways your worker can screw you over IF the job they did went into an enterprise where money was made.  TALK TO YOUR ACCOUNTANT!  And know that the average Dominican is skirting the law but if you’re running a business you better try and do things right.   If you’re doing airbnb you’re probably not a registered DR business but you should be.  Your worker can demand rights and severance for example, if their work contributed to business earnings and you let them go for whatever reason.  They know this and with the right counsel, they could sue you.  And if they sniffed that you are making money?  Consider yourself a target.


If you’re not a corporation,,,, more often that not, your gig worker will still pressure you to think you’re their employer and therefore obligated to pay severance for example.  They’re actually right according to the law.  Yet meanwhile they were always late, broke stuff, borrowed money but never paid it back, etc.   Keep things clear since the beginning.  Allow them to decide if it suits them or not.  Don’t screw anyone over, but don’t be dumb either.


guys, I feel myself getting bitter.  I have to get out of DR for a while.

planner

@Conifer

You are clearly bitter!  Maybe you need to  put yourself in time out!  Or maybe this is not the place for you?